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Old 06-03-2010   #1 (permalink)
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Default Crunchyroll has Bleach :(

As of yesterday, Crunchyroll has secured the rights to stream Bleach in North America.

UPDATE: Even though Dattebayo has said nothing about CR obtaining the rights to Bleach, they did say if CR would get the rights that they would stop. Consider DB as good as dead on Bleach.
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If and when Crunchyroll obtains a streaming license for Bleach, DB will drop it. We've considered all the options, and there will be no point in continuing to work on it in its current form.

(I totally dig this banner that CR is using)

Links you might want to see:
Dattebayo announces that Bleach will stop if premieres are streamed by Crunchyroll: dattebayo fansubs :: News
Crunchyroll gets the rights to Bleach, effective this Tuesday: Crunchyroll - Forum - Bankai! BLEACH coming to Crunchyroll!
Crunchyroll's new Bleach page: Bleach - Videos, Reviews, Photos, Forums - Official Home - Crunchyroll
Taka Fansubs will not sub Bleach: -[Taka] Fansubs-

How it will work: (taken from Crunchyroll - Forum - Bankai! BLEACH coming to Crunchyroll! )
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Starting next Tuesday, June 8th at 2:30am PDT (yes that's AM), the latest arc beginning with episodes #266-#273, and the latest simulcast episode #274 will be available for Premium Members. Tentatively, the following week on June 15th, episodes #270-#274 will be available to all viewers, and the latest simulcast episode #275 will be available to Premium Members. Every Tuesday at 2:30am PDT, we'll be adding the latest simulcast episode immediately after Japan TV broadcast, and one week later for all viewers. We are planning to catch up on the older episodes as well. More information will be provided on the older episode catch up schedule at a later date.
The Story (Epic TL;DR warning)
Last week, a few weeaboos on the Crunchyroll forums got the idea to start a petition to bring Bleach to Crunchyroll. I always found it weird on why Viz would never give Bleach the Crunchyroll treatment (knowing how it's had "Great success" with Naruto), but I guess we knew why they never streamed it like Naruto.

They didn't have a clue that people wanted it!

Viz Media and Dattebayo Fansubs are like Apple and Microsoft. Two companies that do similar things. Apple is the creator of these things, and Microsoft silently copies them and makes it better in the shadows. Apple never cares, and Microsoft will just keep on copying while making large profits by technically "borrowing" ideas.

DB knows well on they do is illegal. Viz on the other hand, have never mentioned DB at all. And they have never made any attempts to remove Naruto & Bleach from the DB website. Even when they started streaming Naruto, they never acknowledged DB's existence at all.

Anyway (I know I'm talking a lot), Dattebayo made a news post around the same time that this petition started, that they would stop Bleach if it were to be streamed by Crunchyroll. Naruto was stopped after Crunchyroll streamed it's first Naruto premiere. Bleach will (likely) be stopping in a similar fashion.

This can be good or bad news depending on which side you're on.

Legit side: Bleach has had very high ratings on Adult Swim. Viz Media dubbed The Arrancar arc and Part 1 of the Hueco Mundo arc which resulted in gaining new fans (Grimmjow of course!), and a larger Bleach fanbase. Now I can go around wearing my Bleach T-shirts without looking like a fag.

I was more amazed how my Hollow Ichigo shirt got the attention of a young boy in my local mall. He shook his dad's arm and said "Dad, look! That's Ichigo!" For a show, that airs after Midnight on Saturdays, I was a little surprised, that aside, it only shows more that Bleach fever is spreading. Then some random girl was like "WHOA I LIKE YOUR SHIRT". And she wasn't even fat.

My iPod got a new note that day. "Hit tha-- Buy more Bleach t-shirts."

Crunchyroll (despite having one of the most hypocritical admins ever), will give fans every single episode of Bleach streaming up until the current episode for free Hulu is barely in the arrancar arc as of right now (sub & dub). This is great for new and old fans of the series. No more relying on YouTube, no more relying on low quality streaming sites, and best of all, no more waiting a day for the newest Bleach!

The Not Legit side: January of 2009 will be a month I'll never forget. Naruto Shippuden was stopped by the best known fansubber ever, Dattebayo. We later affiliated with DPAC Fansubs whose goal was to be the successor to DB. Later that year, they were forced to shut down. Shortly after Shippuden was dropped by DB, Shippuden was constantly ripped off Crunchyroll by a group known as "Horrible Subs". As much as we hate them, we have to rely on this group now to get Naruto to you ASAP. However, it also brings Naruto to you at almost the same time that it airs in Japan, and that's pretty cool.

When DB gone, you're going to have to rely on Horrible Subs to get your Bleach fix. No other fansubbers sub Bleach besides Flomp at Bleach Portal, but they haven't subbed a current Bleach episode in a long, long time now. Taka Fansubs has already announced that they will not be subbing Bleach.
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DB has yet to make an official statement about CR obtaining the rights for Bleach, I only see DB stopping immediately or tomorrow's episode being the final one. I updated the first post with what they said would happen if CR did get the rights to stream Bleach.

I'll miss the nice karaoke for the OPs/EDs. I hope they will still sub them like they (sort of) did with Shippuden. But I don't see this as the end of the world. Viz does tend to screw with the translation a little, but it's decent. Plus we now get Bleach in upscaled 480p and a unnecessary but nice looking 720p. Hopefully Horrible Subs caps Bleach quickly in a few hours so we can see what's it like.
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But I don't see this as the end of the world. Viz does tend to screw with the translation a little, but it's decent. Plus we now get Bleach in upscaled 480p and a unnecessary but nice looking 720p. Hopefully Horrible Subs caps Bleach quickly in a few hours so we can see what's it like.
True.

I don't even care any longer to be honest... it's not only anime, every multimedia related business is getting the same treatment and response.

There will never be a end to piracy, and there's always answers.

The only real con with these news is that we will be missing out on the awesome karaoke sections and ironic humor db has given us.
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And now it's confirmed as I expected: dattebayo fansubs :: News

Seems my 2nd prediction was right. Bleach 274 (today's episode) will be DB's last episode. At 5:30 AM (exactly 2 hours from now), CR will premere Bleach 274 (to members only of course >_>) , along with all of the other episodes from the current arc to everyone.

I'm sure Horrible Subs will have it out way before DB does. I'm interested to see the translation difference between Viz & DB. Even though they usually aren't that different, the scripts that both teams translate always seem to differ from one another.

UPDATE: Seems Viz Media has released some news that they will be also bringing new episodes of Bleach to Hulu, however, they have no specific release date. Seems they will be also similar to CR, and will only release the newest episode one week after the original broadcast.
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they will be also bringing new episodes of Bleach to Hulu, however, they have no specific release date.
Great new for anyone in the US ey.

The only problem is that dattebayo is totally and utterly useless now. Bleh
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NyaaTorrents >> Torrent Info >> [HorribleSubs] Bleach - 274 [480p].mkv | Anime, manga, and music - Just say the word - 480p
NyaaTorrents >> Torrent Info >> [HorribleSubs] Bleach - 274 [720p].mkv | Anime, manga, and music - Just say the word - 720p

I looked on CR and the first thing I see in the shoutbox is like "Fucking Crunchyroll, no karaoke! Thanks for fucking something else up!" :P

http://flomp.wordpress.com/ - I also found Flomp Fansubs. Seems that they only sub canon episodes, but the latest episode they have subbed is 270. I'm pretty sure that they do Karaoke.
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